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SPN 9x18: META FICTION (Or the one where Robbie Thompson is Metatron)

charlie-minion:

Who needs a convention panel when they can have their own episode and bring down the fourth wall? Robbie Thompson… gosh!! I will always say this man is a genius. Some people might disagree with me, but… that’s OK. Let me try to explain (again) why I think he’s brilliant and why I believe he’s a very elegant Destiel shipper.

The first thing we see in this episode is Metatron. He’s trying to be god, he’s trying to write his own story and this is what he tells us (This is what Robbie tells the Supernatural fandom):

“What makes a story work? Is it the plot? The characters? The text? The subtext? And who gives the story meaning? Is it the writer? Or you? Tonight I thought I would tell you a little story and let you decide.”

Robbie, thank you for telling us that WE can decide what is important to us in a story. It’s OK to watch the show for the plot. It’s OK to watch it for the characters. It’s OK to watch it for the text, the canon things. BUT IT’S ALSO OK TO WATCH IT FOR THE SUBTEXT. It’s OK to decide what we see in a story and ALL OF THAT is what makes a story work. All of that is what makes “a hell of a show” as Metatron himself said later on in the episode. BRAVO, Robbie, BRAVO!!

I think everybody has already said something about the phone conversation between Dean and Cas, so I won’t say much about it. BUT… seriously? How can you even explain the smile those two bring out of each other? What did the script even say in that scene? What do casual viewers think when they see such things? Why do we always get a reaction shot from Sam? (Who I believe ships Destiel with all he has). So many questions. So many feels!

By the way, Gabriel (or at least the illusion Cas saw or whatever it was) called Cas Dean’s boy toy? As in his unofficial boyfriend? As in the guy who takes care of Dean’s needs (emotional *cough cough*)? That line was very Gabriel-like, but we can add one more to the list of Destiel shippers (Metatron). I’m 100% sure Gabe was Metatron because at the end of his conversation with Cas in the car, Gabriel!Metatron said, “A little low on gas, aren’t we?” and that was soooooo Metatron-like. Kudos to Richard Speight Jr for doing such a great job because the way he said it made me immediately remember the “Not a big reader, are we?” that Metatron said to Naomi in 8x23. Anyway, Gabriel!Metatron’s line “I really hate continuity errors” cracked me up because Robbie, yes!! We all know you really do hate continuity errors. Thanks for letting us know! *wink wink* (Smooth shout out to Meg in 8x17, by the way. “Would it have killed you to pick up a book? Watch a movie?” Another episode also written by Robbie Thompson.)

Also, can we take a moment to talk about the fact that Metatron read the Winchester Gospels? Now he probably knows more about Dean and Cas’ weird relationship dynamic than they themselves. Creepy!

In the meantime, Dean and Sam are trying to get Gadreel to talk and once they see that’s not happening, Dean says “We need Cas.” Is it just me or Dean really sounded like a sick-worried boyfriend when he said “I tried him again. He hasn’t called, he hasn’t text”? Awwwww worried!Dean is priceless! Protective boyfriend of the year because he even turned on the GPS on Cas’ phone and sent Sam to go find him. How can people still think Dean doesn’t care about Cas?

If that wasn’t enough source of feels, how about Dean taking his phone and probably calling Cas (again) right after the hurtful speech Gadreel gave him? Cas had 6 missed calls from Dean when Sam found his phone. Dean was not calling Sam. He didn’t even answer the phone when Sam called him because he left it in the bathroom. Why would he take the phone with him if the only person he really wanted to talk with (Cas) was not even answering?

Anyway, let’s move on. We have the trade scene and Robbie (Metatron) telling us that the Winchesters and Castiel trying to stop Metatron is gonna be a hell of a show. And then we get some seconds of Team Free will together. Dean asking Cas “Are you sure you’re alright?” means so much to me. It gives us the idea that after the trade, Dean had already asked him if he was OK and Cas had said so, but Dean wanted confirmation. He worries so much about his feathered friend that he needs to ask him again.  Awwww protective!boyfriend again! And talking about protective!boyfriend, Cas’ reaction to Dean’s Mark of Cain is exactly what we all wanted to see! “What have you done?” “Dammit Dean!” Cas is so pissed. He now is so worried about Dean and I think the whole universe couldn’t deny that. And Sam… poor Sam is just like… he doesn’t even know what to say or how to react. “Sam, you keep an eye on him.” I bet Cas would do anything to be the one keeping an eye on Dean, but there’s so much in their hands right now. Abaddon, Metatron. Each has their own battle.

Finally, Robbie Thompson closes an awesome episode by talking to the fandom one more time. He uses Metatron to give us an important message.

My job is to set up interesting characters and see where they lead me. The by-product of having well-drawn characters is they may surprise you. But I know something they don’t know: the ending. How I get there doesn’t matter as long as everybody plays their part.”

So… Robbie is telling us that even if some things were/are not planned, even if some things have been a complete surprise to the writers (not just him), that’s the good part of writing. The characters lead the story. The story develops as a result of having good and interesting characters, and as long as it ends the way they originally planned, there’s always room for plot twists because “hey, what writer doesn’t love a good twist!” Does Robbie need to be clearer than this? I’m sorry if you think all I see is Destiel because I’m biased, but I regret nothing. I totally believe this was Robbie’s way of saying: “It was not planned but we’re making it up as we go.” Just like Dean and Cas have been since season 4.  

The star-crossed lovers can’t be together (yet) because one has to take on Abaddon and restore hell, whereas the other has to take on Metatron and restore heaven. This is going to be a hell of a show, and that’s why there will be a season 10. I’m so freaking ready for the rest of this season and the next one! (Though I know for sure we’ll cry a river along the way).

Thank you, Robbie for another delightful episode. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us! Who needs a fourth wall in Supernatural?! 

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I'd be pissed off, even if it's temp, maybe a quick switch for a few minutes but seriously, even though she may look like a female Cas, the only person, in my book, that can pull of Cas and who he is, is Misha Collins.

Asked by: Anonymous

Agreed! I have talked about my thoughts at length here. I can honestly see the writers going with a female!Cas briefly as a shocking cliffhanger, and given the setup and the actress’ tweet, I even think it may be likely. But Misha has made Castiel the character that he is, and I don’t think the producers have any intention of getting rid of him for good. Not only is he a terrific actor, but he’s worth his weight in Twitter gold. So if they were to go this way, I think it would only be for maybe an episode or two at most. I think I could tolerate someone else playing Cas for a single episode— it would be a lot like a bodyswap episode, which is a pretty common trope— but more than that would be irritating.

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castielsconvictions:

gemwrites:

kayla-ships-klaine-and-destiel:

gemwrites:

Random speculation… rewatching “Meta Fiction,” I noticed that Hannah looks very much like a female Cas, with dark hair and blue eyes. People have been speculating all along that Cas might wind up (hopefully temporarily!) in a female vessel. What if when the actress wrote, “Just you wait,” that’s what she was alluding to? Admittedly the vessel is currently occupied by another angel, but… well, if I were casting a female Castiel, she’d be a top pick. 

i can really see that too but i feel like cas going into a female body would be really bad

  1. that means we lose misha and i never ever want him off the show; the don’t think the producers do either ‘cause he gets them the most ratings
  2. it would feel like a huge slap in the face if the writers made destiel textually canon because cas is in a female vessel; a lot of the fans know that angels are technically genderless, but not all and many of them see cas as a man therefore they would take canon destiel with fem!cas as “see two men can’t be together but it’s fine now because cas has the appearance of a woman” (which is shitty)

Cool that other people saw this too; I’ve been off Tumblr most of the day and thought I’d finally had an original thought. Ha! But last night the local station went down due to thunderstorms and I watched on a poor-quality livestream, so the resemblance didn’t jump out on me till I watched iTunes on my TV today. The similarities in their features are quite striking.

I agree this would be a total copout. I’ve been saying for a while I think it’s possible (and so have a lot of other people!), but I really hope it won’t happen permanently. It would be okay with me if Cas wound up temporarily in a female vessel, thus forcing Dean to come to grips with his feelings for Cas, and then went back into Jimmy Novak’s body. That might be a reasonable way to do it. But to make Cas permanently female would feel a kick in the teeth to many of us. Even so, there’s always the possibility that the writers can’t see any other way to get out of the situation. I guess we’ll see what happens!

I would like a Fem!Cas temporarily. Just for the hilarity of seeing Castiel reacting to having a female body and all the different things that come along with it - ie boobs. But I would definitely  want Misha back as Cas. 
However a third thought to Destiel - What if Destiel became canon in a female body, but Cas returned to Jimmy’s body? Would it continue there? Because if that was the case I wouldn’t have an issue with it starting out as female. But if a switch is made permanently and then it happens, yeah I’ll be irked. 

I agree, a permanent switch would be flat-out insulting. I also don’t think the producers have any intention of letting Misha go for good. That being said, I do think there is one thing that makes a temporary switch likely, and that’s the fact that we’re coming up on the end of the season. We know that they always like to have a (supposedly) shocking cliffhanger. Furthermore, we know from last night’s episode that Cas’ stolen grace is wearing out, and presumably having a bad effect on his vessel. This seems like an obvious setup for a cliffie of oh-no-Cas-is-dead!, except they’ve done so many deaths it’s getting to the point of silliness.

A better cliffie would be Cas taking up residence in a new body. (Presumably they’d find his original grace, but Jimmy’s vessel would be too damaged to accept it, or some such.) A cliffhanger of Cas-as-female would spark outrage and fury in the fandom, as people have pointed out, but there would also be enough hope that it isn’t permanent that Cas fans probably wouldn’t tune out for good. It could also lead to Dean having to come to grips with his feelings for Cas, which would definitely be a bonus. And since I don’t think the producers have any intention of letting Misha go, Cas would switch back to Jimmy’s body fairly soon in season ten.

If nothing else, there’s a good fanfic to be written here:-). 

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kayla-ships-klaine-and-destiel:

gemwrites:

Random speculation… rewatching “Meta Fiction,” I noticed that Hannah looks very much like a female Cas, with dark hair and blue eyes. People have been speculating all along that Cas might wind up (hopefully temporarily!) in a female vessel. What if when the actress wrote, “Just you wait,” that’s what she was alluding to? Admittedly the vessel is currently occupied by another angel, but… well, if I were casting a female Castiel, she’d be a top pick. 

i can really see that too but i feel like cas going into a female body would be really bad

  1. that means we lose misha and i never ever want him off the show; the don’t think the producers do either ‘cause he gets them the most ratings
  2. it would feel like a huge slap in the face if the writers made destiel textually canon because cas is in a female vessel; a lot of the fans know that angels are technically genderless, but not all and many of them see cas as a man therefore they would take canon destiel with fem!cas as “see two men can’t be together but it’s fine now because cas has the appearance of a woman” (which is shitty)

Cool that other people saw this too; I’ve been off Tumblr most of the day and thought I’d finally had an original thought. Ha! But last night the local station went down due to thunderstorms and I watched on a poor-quality livestream, so the resemblance didn’t jump out on me till I watched iTunes on my TV today. The similarities in their features are quite striking.

I agree this would be a total copout. I’ve been saying for a while I think it’s possible (and so have a lot of other people!), but I really hope it won’t happen permanently. It would be okay with me if Cas wound up temporarily in a female vessel, thus forcing Dean to come to grips with his feelings for Cas, and then went back into Jimmy Novak’s body. That might be a reasonable way to do Destiel. But to make Cas permanently female would feel a kick in the teeth to many of us. Even so, there’s always the possibility that the writers can’t see any other way to get out of the situation. I guess we’ll see what happens!

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Random speculation… rewatching “Meta Fiction,” I noticed that Hannah looks very much like a female Cas, with dark hair and blue eyes. People have been speculating all along that Cas might wind up (hopefully temporarily!) in a female vessel. What if when the actress wrote, “Just you wait,” that’s what she was alluding to? Admittedly the vessel is currently occupied by another angel, but… well, if I were casting a female Castiel, she’d be a top pick. 

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Ugh, it looks like the ratings for last night’s episode were way down. It doesn’t help that there was a minihiatus, or that there was absolutely no promotion for this episode as far as I saw. And it’s too bad they kept Richard Speight Jr.’s return so firmly under wraps— I appreciate them trying to surprise us, but surely if people had known more viewers would have tuned in. I wanted Cas’ return to get lots of ratings *sighs*. Oh, well…

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